In 1982 I was graduating from being a gay Newbie. I'd found certain groups of guys at PRO regarded themselves as butch or fem - and the fem guys were called girls. Oh, it was mostly a joke, intended as genderfuck. So mostly I went along with it, but I still thought it was rather artificial. Is this simply the manifestion of Trans under obsolete terminology? It doesn't seem so to me. Looking back, some men who put on the swishy persona I think truly were trans, but others did it as a joke, or a way of telling society rethink gender roles. I don't think I'm gong to try to unravel this just now.